Canadian Car Buyers Calling BS on Higher Prices

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In the last 5 years, and particularly in the last few months, the Canadian dollar has rocketed in value against the US greenback. It doesn't seem that long ago that a Canadian dollar was worth about 60 cents American. Now, we're pushing the $1.08 range, and there seems to be no end in site. In the last 120 days alone, our dollar has gained over 16 cents against it's American counterpart.

Now, as you might imagine, this has a number of implications for Canadians. It's good for cross border shopping, but terrible for exporters. One area that wasn't so good was car buying. When the values of our respective dollars were flipped, we could understand why we had to pay 10 to 15 thousand more for the average vehicle. It was a simple exchange rate calculation. But why did the price gap remain when our dollar started to rise?

Just today, I went to Toyota's Canadian website (toyota.ca) to see what a fully loaded Prius would cost, delivered and ready to drive. The price tag came to just over $41,000. The exact same vehicle, just across the border in Spokane, Washington? $28,000. And remember, that's $41,000 Canadian. If we calculate at current exchange rates, that's $44, 300. Everytime we buy a vehicle, Canadian's are getting screwed, in this case, to the tune of over $16,000.

Now, thanks to the transparency of the web (it took me about 4 minutes to figure out the extent to which Toyota was screwing us) Canadians figured out pretty quickly that we were being had, which lead to a flurry of cross border shopping. Suddenly, vehicles were flying off the lot, headed north for the border. The manufacturer's answer? Certainly not to consider a pricing change. No, they forbid US dealers to sell to Canadians. Of course, in today's world, for every wall you put up, a dozen holes are quickly rammed through it. The auto brokership business is thriving, thank you.

Now, as a Canadian, that makes me furious. There's no excuse for it. The media have started to pick up on this and there is some pressure on the manufacturers, all of which have remained stonily silent. I suspect that if the reverse were true, and American's were being fleeced out of $16,000 everytime they buy a vehicle, they'd be a little more responsive. I did hear Buzz Hargrove, spokesman for the Canadian Auto Workers Union, say that this wasn't about pricing, it was about keeping jobs in Canada by supporting the Canadian auto industry. What? Like the Canadian auto industry is supporting us by giving us clear, fair and transparent pricing? Buzz, you have your head up your ass. This is about not treating customers like a bunch of stupid sheep. It's about doing the right thing and valuing us. And if you can't do that, you don't deserve your jobs. I want Canada to be able to compete in a fair and open market place, not by slipping a fast one past your neighbours.

By the way, this is not just about cars. We're paying more for pretty much everything. If you're in Canada, pick up a book and see the Canadian price, relative to the American price. We're paying about 40% more. A friend of mine actually had some US cash with him and tried convincing the seller to give him the US price if he paid in US cash. It didn't work.

Now, there's are somethings that will always be more expensive in Canada. We're a big country, a lot of areas are fairly remote and we have a different tax structure. I'm not expecting parity with the US. I'm expecting fair pricing. I'm expecting a frictionless marketplace that let's the customer decide.

What the manufacturer's, like Toyota, don't seem to understand is that in today's world, the customer isn't ignorant. We know when we're being screwed. And we don't like it. Why would you expect us to react differently?


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by Jody at 11/16/2007 12:08 PM

Excellent post Gord. You are 100% correct. Here's more proof of just how bad we are getting screwed.
http://seo-space.blogspot.com/2007/11/canadian-car-buyers-are-geting-ripped.html

More people need to step up. It's time to put an end to this. How any business can treat their customers like this continues to blow my mind. In a day when competiton is fierce, there is ALWAYS an option for consumers.
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by Fred at 12/19/2007 8:41 PM

Gord; is there any connection between that new anti theft lock that locks out canadian buyers and the fact that the dollar is now at par?
does government make sweet anti public deals with big industry?
 re: Canadian Car Buyers Calling BS on Higher Prices
by Marty at 1/12/2008 4:13 PM

I can't believe there is not a thousand responses to this blog. My god it is so typical of Canadians to just bend over and take it and not even complain. What I would like to see is a nation wide boycott, if every Canadian that is even thinking of buying a car just held off and no one walked into a dealership for a even one week the news would pick it up and the dealers would force their respective mothercorps to cut them a break. But noooooo we will just bend over and take it and say thanks for ripping me off.
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by Pierre at 1/30/2008 9:28 AM

If you're wondering about what's happening now, why we don't hear the TV news or read in the newspapers that the prices are too high, it's simply because the car companies have threatened the media that they would pull their advertising revenue.

The prices are still WAY too high, and they are trying to brush the story under the carpet...

Want lower prices? It's easy: STOP BUYING NEW CARS!!! The prices would just melt away in a few months... Go to the dealership, try cars, negotiate, ask for the US MSRP then walk away. So simple...
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by Frederic at 3/9/2008 11:37 AM

marty said earlier "I can't believe there is not a thousand responses to this blog. My god it is so typical of Canadians to just bend over and take it and not even complain. What I would like to see is a nation wide boycott, if every Canadian that is even thinking of buying a car just held off and no one walked into a dealership for a even one week the news would pick it up and the dealers would force their respective mothercorps to cut them a break. But noooooo we will just bend over and take it and say thanks for ripping me off."
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I hope you didn't include QUEBECERS in your statement. Because Quebecers are not reknown to bend over...And let me tell you they already started businesses crossing your car across the border -- no problems... and for a thousand dollars more on the price of the car they deal with all the hassles of buying a car in the US for you... Paying a broker around $1000 - You still save a lot considering that sometimes there is a difference of $16 000 between Canada and the US.
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by kenny Bartlett at 4/2/2008 5:01 PM

I`m pissed about the difference in pricing. I was looking a a Honda Fit, not the most expensive vehicle, but I`m a student. Their is almost a $6,000.00 Dollar difference and for me that a lot of money for a university Student. I could use that extra money to pay for a whole year of tuition. The canadian car companies need to get their heads out of their asses, and offer some fair prices.
 Concerning Your Example
by John Thompson at 4/6/2008 7:03 PM

Hey, I agree almost fully with your article except for the example you provided about Toyota pricing. Toyota actually is one of the first dealers to lower the price of their cars and position it at price that is very fair. Blame something else, like Honda for instance haha.
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by sarmad at 4/13/2008 4:13 PM

Excellent article.
More info on pricing difference at carswithoutborders.com
check this out, cost of doing business still lower in canada with US greenback falling: http://www.kpmg.ca/en/news/pr20080327a.html
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by Dave at 12/2/2008 11:06 AM

I live in the states and am completely oblivious to this discrepancy in prices. How in the world are dealer staying in business up there, and why are they not all over the manufacturers for this. The math just does not add up. Good luck, or rather keep buying cars in the states ;)

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